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		<title>Google Server Opening for Federation</title>
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</p><!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>Last week I monitored the  <a href="https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BCFvfaVe-A.1" target="_blank">Europe eComm 2009 Wave</a> which I encourage you read if you have a Wave account, and I assume if you are here then you do.</p>
<p>If you are not familiar with eComm you should click on <a href="http://europe.ecomm.ec/" target="_blank">Europe eComm</a> to find out more about them. They describe eComm as:</p>
<blockquote><p>The worlds&#8217; leading-edge communications event. It&#8217;s designed to showcase and accelerate both technology and business model innovation; and to explore the latest opportunities.</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason I mention this conference is because both Stephanie Hannon and Lars Rasmussen both spoke at the event. Their respective topics of discussion where:</p>
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<li>Stephanie &#8211; <a href="https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BjUmFaxaIF" target="_blank">Why You Should Care About Google Wave</a></li>
<li>Lars &#8211; <a href="https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BjUmFaxaIH" target="_blank">Wave Federation: Building An Open Network</a></li>
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<p>Also, they had a W<em>ave</em> going about <a href="Using Wave at eComm (how is it going?) " target="_blank">Using Wave at eComm (How&#8217;s it going)</a>. This was a very interesting and telling <em>Wave</em> and is worth reading. You will see that most folks were not sure where the value-added was. This was a W<em>ave</em> that was started by Stephanie and , in my mind, highlights that Google itself is struggling a little with the problem of what is the use case that this product solves. In other words, it is a solution to a problem that is not defined. So they are kind of throwing the <em>Waves</em> against the wall and see what sticks.</p>
<p>I have blogged over and over again on this site that my use case is the many Business Collaboration use cases that are required on a daily basis. I don&#8217;t think Wave impresses as well when you are trying to do the same thing that other products do. I.E. This <em>Wave </em>at the <a href="http://europe.ecomm.ec/" target="_blank">eComm</a> could have been a chat conversation or a Twitter hash conversation or, or, or. The point being there are lots of things that do that type of function. Again I point to the <a href="http://www.googlewaveblogger.com/collaboration/gravity-the-best-business-example-of-google-wave-period/" target="_blank">Gravity post</a> as how best way to present Google Wave to folks. However, the original <em>Wave </em>at the <a href="http://europe.ecomm.ec/" target="_blank">eComm</a> was great. It captured all the content/conversations of the different presentations and linked to them all together within that original <em>Wave</em>.  It would have been great to have embedded video into the presentation <em>Waves</em>. Take questions from Wave, etc, etc. There is a lot of value-added that could be given to a conference using Wave and I see that it will find a way to bring real value added to a conferences in the future. Think streaming video, etc,</p>
<p>One gem of information that came out of this conference, pertaining to Google Wave,  was during Lars&#8217;s presentation. He mentioned that Google will opening up a port on the developer sandbox to allow federation with the Google Wave server. Immediately this hit the blogosphere with a post by <a href="http://thenextweb.com/appetite/2009/10/30/breaking-google-wave-opened-federation-today-host/" target="_blank">theNextWeb</a>. During the presentation they indicated that they would open the federation server up later that day (that day being Friday, 30 Oct) if there were no problems. At the time of this blog post I have seen no indication that they have opened up a port yet. However, it should be safe to assume that will happen sometime this week.</p>
<p>This is great news for those of us that have been playing with the server. It is one thing to build a server and federate with your buddies. But it is quite another to federate with the Google server. This will mean that I can send Waves to myself from my Google Wave account and receive it on my server. Or, if you <a href="http://www.googlewaveblogger.com/developer/how-to-get-a-google-wave-account-or-the-alternative-pygo-wave-server/" target="_blank">signed up on the PygoWave</a> server you can send stuff back and forth. All this gets us closer to being able to build and host business wave servers. Which, to my thinking is the real important part of this whole technology. To bring Web 2.0 to business (how I describe Google Wave) you need to be able to host a wave server.</p>
<p>Great news moving forward! I am really looking forward to linking into the Google server! Are you?</p>
<p>To read the technical background look at the <a href="http://www.waveprotocol.org/whitepapers/google-wave-architecture" target="_blank">White Paper about the Google Wave federation architecture.</a></p>
<p><strong>2009-11-02 UPDATE:</strong></p>
<p>Google Developer Blog just posted the following: <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2009/11/wavesandboxcom-federate-this.html" target="_blank">WaveSandbox.com: Federate This</a>, announcing the opening of the Developer Sandbox for federation.</p>
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